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  • From: Jacek Sokulski <jaceks AT software.com.pl>
  • To: michael.pont AT tesco.net, Patterns Discussion <patterns-discussion AT cs.uiuc.edu>
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  • Subject: Re: Re: [patterns-discussion] Alexander's ideas
  • Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:48:25 +0100
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Hi Michael,
I am sure your patterns are great and maybe have some of QWAN. What I
mean is that the ideas like QWAN that in Alxander's work are central in
most discussion on software patterns are at most treated as something
marginal. In Alexander's pattern language the fundamental criteria if a
pattern is good is if it has the quality.
For example, I have not seen any serious research on what is QWAN in
software. After reading some Alexander's works I have some idea what it
is in architecture, but what it is in software? It took Alexander many
years to clarify his ideas, I am looking if someone has done similar
work in software.

Best wishes
Jacek

W liƛcie z wto, 09-11-2004, godz. 14:08, Michael Pont pisze:
> Hi Jacek,
>
> > I am interested more in the ideas that are at the
> > heart of Alexander's writings: the quality without
> > a name, differentiating the whole ...
>
> Most of the work in my research group has used a pattern structure that
> bears some resemblance to that seen in Alexander's patterns, and this is
> probably the one of the most visible features of the work.
>
> I like to think that we also absorb something of Alexander's "QWAN".
> Specifically, we have tried to identify patterns which support the
> development of highly reliable software for embedded systems. Identifying
> real patterns which help developers create (for example) cars which are
> less likely to crash seems to me to reflect some of the simpler aspects of
> QWAN.
>
> However, having had discussions on this topic at various PLoP conferences
> in the past, I know that others take a slightly different view ...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Michael.
>
>
>
> +======================================+
>
> Michael J. Pont, PhD
> Embedded Systems Laboratory,
> University of Leicester
>
> http://www.le.ac.uk/eg/embedded
>
> +======================================+
>
>





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