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- From: "Reich, Shalom" <Shalom.Reich AT gs.com>
- To: Ralph Johnson <johnson AT cs.uiuc.edu>, Mike Beedle <mike.beedle AT newgovernance.com>, patterns-discussion AT cs.uiuc.edu
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- Subject: RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming
- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:42:01 -0400
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On 10/25/04 7:58 AM, "Ralph Johnson"
<johnson AT cs.uiuc.edu>
wrote:
> It is important to know why great programming languages
> don't get more market share because until we figure out
> how to make them win, it is hardly worth inventing better languages.
I know that I only used Lisp in a Programming Languages course. It
certainly did NOT give me a feel for the types of problems the language
could solve and was good at solving.
Speaking for myself, I only thought about the role of programming language
in framing the solution to a problem when I was forced to change my way of
thinking from procedural to OO. The examples in Ruminations on C++ (by
Andrew Koenig) finally made that explicit in my mind - rather than just
being a sub-concious piece of baggage.
I still don't know Lisp well but I now see many problems that it can handle
nicely in the financial modeling world. There are rumors that my current
employer uses a private language that LOOKS sort-of OO as a wrapper around
LISP in order to do Monte Carlo financial simulations. However, my employer
(apperently) would rather train people in this private language rather than
have them write Lisp directly. I now wonder why this is true.
Shalom Reich
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, (continued)
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Pascal Costanza, 10/28/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Pascal Costanza, 10/25/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Ralph Johnson, 10/25/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Malte Finsterwalder, 10/25/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Pascal Costanza, 10/25/2004
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- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Malte Finsterwalder, 10/26/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Dan Palanza, 10/25/2004
- FW: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Mike Beedle, 10/25/2004
- FW: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Mike Beedle, 10/25/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Ralph Johnson, 10/25/2004
- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Reich, Shalom, 10/25/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Pascal Costanza, 10/25/2004
- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Mike Beedle, 10/26/2004
- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Jason Baragry, 10/26/2004
- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Mike Beedle, 10/26/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Pascal Costanza, 10/25/2004
- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Sriram Gopalan, 10/25/2004
- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Chris Finlayson, 10/27/2004
- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Reich, Shalom, 10/27/2004
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