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Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming

From: Pascal Costanza <pascal AT p-cos.net>
To: Mark Grand <mgrand AT mindspring.com>
Cc: Mike Beedle <beedlem AT e-architects.com>, patterns-discussion AT cs.uiuc.edu, Ralph Johnson <johnson AT cs.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:03:42 +0200
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On 25 Oct 2004, at 1:10, Mark Grand wrote:

In the commercial sector, it is hard to find Lisp or Smalltalk people. Reimplementing in a more common language will, over time, reduce costs and make the progress of software development more predictable.

What does "finding common language people" have to do with reducing costs and predictability.

With regard to predictability there is evidence to the contrary. See http://www.flownet.com/gat/papers/lisp-java.pdf

With regard to costs: How do you measure long-term effects in that regard?

Pascal

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[patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Mike Beedle, 10/22/2004
- Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Pascal Costanza, 10/22/2004
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- RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Mike Beedle, 10/24/2004
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        RE: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Chris Finlayson, 10/27/2004
        
        Re: [patterns-discussion] Pattern-Oriented Programming, Pascal Costanza, 10/28/2004
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